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		<title>By: Quick Hit Tuesday : A.J. Wood - Adobe Instructor - If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Hit Tuesday : A.J. Wood - Adobe Instructor - If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kimbarovsky not only commented here on the blog, but forwarded Saturday&#8217;s article &amp; my Art Business 101 piece via Twitter. The dialogue has been great, and I appreciate all the opinions &amp; [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kimbarovsky not only commented here on the blog, but forwarded Saturday&#8217;s article &amp; my Art Business 101 piece via Twitter. The dialogue has been great, and I appreciate all the opinions &amp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Forbes &#38; Crowdspring Fire Up Designers : A.J. Wood - Adobe Instructor is shouting "Burn your ship!"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forbes &#38; Crowdspring Fire Up Designers : A.J. Wood - Adobe Instructor is shouting "Burn your ship!"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happens now?  The reality is new technology always brings about change in any industry. I call it Art &amp; Business 101. Skilled &amp; unskilled labor are impacted by technology that make tasks easier, or perform tasks [...] </description>
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		<title>By: DurbinDigital ~TYE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DurbinDigital ~TYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ThanX for responding A.J.! It was more of an irritated rhetorical question. The people that I have talked with, won&#039;t turn her in to BBB or small claims court, reason? because they don&#039;t want to &quot;offend&quot; her. My response was how can you sit back and let her sabotage someone else&#039;s wedding/birthday/prom/important event like that? It is frustrating because I have tried both parties to make things better for everyone. The &quot;pro&quot; so she can learn and be better, and the other people so they get quality results. I&#039;m not a &quot;pro&quot; photographer, but even my shots are better. (Probably because I have formal art/design training, therefore a better &quot;eye&quot;) *so whenever this person is mentioned, all I can do is shake my head* And I have no idea how she manages to get more clients... no idea!

As far as my brother is concerned, I am &quot;fixing&quot; keepers that the wedding guests and I took &amp; am salvaging what I can from what they do have, so they at least have a few to hang on the wall. There are NONE from the ceremony, because the &quot;pro&quot; made a bad move and announced on the &quot;bride and grooms&quot; behalf, that no one is to take pictures because they &quot;paid&quot; for a professional.... so sad! Hopefully my work will ease the disappointment and let them have good memories and not cry whenever someone mentions their wedding.

ThanX again!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;DurbinDigital ~TYEs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.durbindigital.com/2008/10/technorati/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Technorati &amp; randomness&lt;/a&gt; on [site]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ThanX for responding A.J.! It was more of an irritated rhetorical question. The people that I have talked with, won&#8217;t turn her in to BBB or small claims court, reason? because they don&#8217;t want to &#8220;offend&#8221; her. My response was how can you sit back and let her sabotage someone else&#8217;s wedding/birthday/prom/important event like that? It is frustrating because I have tried both parties to make things better for everyone. The &#8220;pro&#8221; so she can learn and be better, and the other people so they get quality results. I&#8217;m not a &#8220;pro&#8221; photographer, but even my shots are better. (Probably because I have formal art/design training, therefore a better &#8220;eye&#8221;) *so whenever this person is mentioned, all I can do is shake my head* And I have no idea how she manages to get more clients&#8230; no idea!</p>
<p>As far as my brother is concerned, I am &#8220;fixing&#8221; keepers that the wedding guests and I took &amp; am salvaging what I can from what they do have, so they at least have a few to hang on the wall. There are NONE from the ceremony, because the &#8220;pro&#8221; made a bad move and announced on the &#8220;bride and grooms&#8221; behalf, that no one is to take pictures because they &#8220;paid&#8221; for a professional&#8230;. so sad! Hopefully my work will ease the disappointment and let them have good memories and not cry whenever someone mentions their wedding.</p>
<p>ThanX again!</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>DurbinDigital ~TYEs last blog post..<a href="http://www.durbindigital.com/2008/10/technorati/" rel="nofollow">Technorati &amp; randomness</a> on [site]</em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: A.J. Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J. Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tye - Thanks for the kind words, I&#039;m glad you enjoy the blog, and I&#039;m sure Janine appreciates your patronage as well.

I don&#039;t have a specific answer to your question, however, I find it surprising that the &quot;pro&quot; you spoke of is able to continue working if that&#039;s how she treats her clients.

A lot of what we do as creatives grows from word of mouth. If this &quot;pro&quot; was shafting clients, specifically by misrepresentation during the sale, that would be a breach of contract.

I can&#039;t imagine someone like that lasting very long here in Dallas/Fort Worth. And big money people talk.

As you know someone who was personally affected, you may encourage them to seek a refund, or report her to the BBB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tye &#8211; Thanks for the kind words, I&#8217;m glad you enjoy the blog, and I&#8217;m sure Janine appreciates your patronage as well.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a specific answer to your question, however, I find it surprising that the &#8220;pro&#8221; you spoke of is able to continue working if that&#8217;s how she treats her clients.</p>
<p>A lot of what we do as creatives grows from word of mouth. If this &#8220;pro&#8221; was shafting clients, specifically by misrepresentation during the sale, that would be a breach of contract.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine someone like that lasting very long here in Dallas/Fort Worth. And big money people talk.</p>
<p>As you know someone who was personally affected, you may encourage them to seek a refund, or report her to the BBB.</p>
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		<title>By: DurbinDigital ~TYE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DurbinDigital ~TYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your blogs and have been an avid reader of yours and Janineology since I discovered you both! Keep it up!

I agree with this topic discussion whole heartedly!

My question, comes from reading all of the blogs on professionalism and quality (and personal experience) that have been popping up lately ... HOW do you educate a self proclaimed &quot;pro&quot; and the public that is suckered into purchasing their crap?

I know a &quot;photogrpher&quot; who charges more than some of the &quot;pros&quot; I know, who is making a reputation of being the photographer that makes brides CRY (not because they are happy either) whenever their wedding day is brought up in conversation. She has all of the right tools, but NONE of the right attitude or talent. She has no desire to get better, because people pay her what she asks (because she somehow knows how to sell herself), but with the worst possible outcome of the product, NO ONE will stand up to her and pitch a fit about the CRAP they ended up with. If I had paid that much $$, and ended up with CRAP for my wedding pictures, there would be a serious court case.

So how do you educate the unwilling? I made friendly comments about professional dress and conduct (she showed up to my brothers wedding in sweats and sat with the guests through 98% of the event), quality of the images (she shows lab printed photos in her very limited portfolio and gives the customer home printed inkjets), and the prices she is charging (suggested hooking her up with a few Pro&#039;s so that she could gain insight, learn process and quality, while still making $$ while learning and getting better)... etc.
  
I always ALWAYS tell my students that cameras, computers and Photoshop are just tools, and that like anything else it takes loads of time and practice to make things come out looking great and the way we want them to, so practice, practice, practice and if you can&#039;t get it to look quite right ASK for help, because there are hundreds of people online and in the community that will gladly give crits and suggestions. 

Cheers and keep up the great work! I apologize for the rant, the unprofessionals really irk me!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;DurbinDigital ~TYEs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.durbindigital.com/2008/10/technorati/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Technorati &amp; randomness&lt;/a&gt; on [site]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your blogs and have been an avid reader of yours and Janineology since I discovered you both! Keep it up!</p>
<p>I agree with this topic discussion whole heartedly!</p>
<p>My question, comes from reading all of the blogs on professionalism and quality (and personal experience) that have been popping up lately &#8230; HOW do you educate a self proclaimed &#8220;pro&#8221; and the public that is suckered into purchasing their crap?</p>
<p>I know a &#8220;photogrpher&#8221; who charges more than some of the &#8220;pros&#8221; I know, who is making a reputation of being the photographer that makes brides CRY (not because they are happy either) whenever their wedding day is brought up in conversation. She has all of the right tools, but NONE of the right attitude or talent. She has no desire to get better, because people pay her what she asks (because she somehow knows how to sell herself), but with the worst possible outcome of the product, NO ONE will stand up to her and pitch a fit about the CRAP they ended up with. If I had paid that much $$, and ended up with CRAP for my wedding pictures, there would be a serious court case.</p>
<p>So how do you educate the unwilling? I made friendly comments about professional dress and conduct (she showed up to my brothers wedding in sweats and sat with the guests through 98% of the event), quality of the images (she shows lab printed photos in her very limited portfolio and gives the customer home printed inkjets), and the prices she is charging (suggested hooking her up with a few Pro&#8217;s so that she could gain insight, learn process and quality, while still making $$ while learning and getting better)&#8230; etc.</p>
<p>I always ALWAYS tell my students that cameras, computers and Photoshop are just tools, and that like anything else it takes loads of time and practice to make things come out looking great and the way we want them to, so practice, practice, practice and if you can&#8217;t get it to look quite right ASK for help, because there are hundreds of people online and in the community that will gladly give crits and suggestions. </p>
<p>Cheers and keep up the great work! I apologize for the rant, the unprofessionals really irk me!</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>DurbinDigital ~TYEs last blog post..<a href="http://www.durbindigital.com/2008/10/technorati/" rel="nofollow">Technorati &amp; randomness</a> on [site]</em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: A.J. Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J. Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janine - Totally. Your post has been a hot topic, and I&#039;ve read variations on this theme on Scott Kelby&#039;s blog. Usually, it&#039;s &quot;Photoshop is evil, be a REAL photographer.&quot; or &quot;Mac suck PCs rule.&quot; but the bottom line is technology has made creating quality images accessible to everyone.

I agree with your points that if Joe Bored really wants to be in the mix, then he should study like the rest of us. I also think plenty of folks are content to take their own digital picture, or do their own touchups, not as art, but simply because it&#039;s good enough for them.

Nancy - That&#039;s awesome. Glad you liked the dedication to my wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janine &#8211; Totally. Your post has been a hot topic, and I&#8217;ve read variations on this theme on Scott Kelby&#8217;s blog. Usually, it&#8217;s &#8220;Photoshop is evil, be a REAL photographer.&#8221; or &#8220;Mac suck PCs rule.&#8221; but the bottom line is technology has made creating quality images accessible to everyone.</p>
<p>I agree with your points that if Joe Bored really wants to be in the mix, then he should study like the rest of us. I also think plenty of folks are content to take their own digital picture, or do their own touchups, not as art, but simply because it&#8217;s good enough for them.</p>
<p>Nancy &#8211; That&#8217;s awesome. Glad you liked the dedication to my wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, AJ! Thanks for the mention (s)! I don&#039;t think the horse is quite that gross, just yet (lol!), but I&#039;ll lay off that particular rant, at least for a while. I know those types won&#039;t go away! What I was trying to get across was the lack of respect for a certain art form, the &quot;chia-pet&quot; syndrome, from fellow artists, *and* the public. I&#039;m not concerned with people being competition, I actually welcome the competition! That just makes me want to be better at what I do! But I want the competition to really, genuinely BE competition, not just Joe Bored who wants to make extra cash and has no idea how to restore a photo! I want Joe to learn and do it well, first! Does that make sense?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Janines last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://janinealogy.blogspot.com/2009/01/fascinating-mr-flipper.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Fascinating Mr. Flipper&lt;/a&gt; on [site]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, AJ! Thanks for the mention (s)! I don&#8217;t think the horse is quite that gross, just yet (lol!), but I&#8217;ll lay off that particular rant, at least for a while. I know those types won&#8217;t go away! What I was trying to get across was the lack of respect for a certain art form, the &#8220;chia-pet&#8221; syndrome, from fellow artists, *and* the public. I&#8217;m not concerned with people being competition, I actually welcome the competition! That just makes me want to be better at what I do! But I want the competition to really, genuinely BE competition, not just Joe Bored who wants to make extra cash and has no idea how to restore a photo! I want Joe to learn and do it well, first! Does that make sense?</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Janines last blog post..<a href="http://janinealogy.blogspot.com/2009/01/fascinating-mr-flipper.html" rel="nofollow">The Fascinating Mr. Flipper</a> on [site]</em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Janine Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I&#039;m another Janine, not the one from Janinealogy.)

I think this is really a marketing problem. Marketing is not showing your work to the world randomly, it&#039;s finding a need and filling it. The people who don&#039;t appreciate the quality of your work are not your target customers. They don&#039;t care how much experience you have or how many hours of hard work you put it. They won&#039;t pay you what you&#039;re worth.

The customers you&#039;re looking for appreciate quality and creativity and are willing to pay for it. So how do you find them? By getting your work shown as much as possible, to the right people. One photog I know gives each client a stack of her business cards, with their photo on it. Genius. Her already-satisfied clients are glad to pass out the cards with their photo. I know Janine does volunteer photo restoration for disaster victims, maybe she could get that story in the local paper, with examples of her work. Joining professional associations or online forums can help.

But I think everyone is agreed that the most important thing is to do the very best work you can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;m another Janine, not the one from Janinealogy.)</p>
<p>I think this is really a marketing problem. Marketing is not showing your work to the world randomly, it&#8217;s finding a need and filling it. The people who don&#8217;t appreciate the quality of your work are not your target customers. They don&#8217;t care how much experience you have or how many hours of hard work you put it. They won&#8217;t pay you what you&#8217;re worth.</p>
<p>The customers you&#8217;re looking for appreciate quality and creativity and are willing to pay for it. So how do you find them? By getting your work shown as much as possible, to the right people. One photog I know gives each client a stack of her business cards, with their photo on it. Genius. Her already-satisfied clients are glad to pass out the cards with their photo. I know Janine does volunteer photo restoration for disaster victims, maybe she could get that story in the local paper, with examples of her work. Joining professional associations or online forums can help.</p>
<p>But I think everyone is agreed that the most important thing is to do the very best work you can do.</p>
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		<title>By: NAPP_News</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAPP_News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed! Hrmmm... I think I&#039;m the one who wasn&#039;t clear on that, not you. =)

Yes. It is ~supremely~ frustrating but yes, eventually, the cream ~does~ rise to the top... but boy oh boy, the waiting truly is the hardest part.

... and BTW - That beautiful post you wrote about your wife ~did~ make me tear up. =)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;NAPP_Newss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/NAPP_News/statuses/1121504831&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NAPP_News: @sonatacreative Aww! Well, Thank you for tweeting about the awesomeness that is Photoshop World! Funny that it&#039;s still a secret to most, eh?&lt;/a&gt; on [site]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed! Hrmmm&#8230; I think I&#8217;m the one who wasn&#8217;t clear on that, not you. =)</p>
<p>Yes. It is ~supremely~ frustrating but yes, eventually, the cream ~does~ rise to the top&#8230; but boy oh boy, the waiting truly is the hardest part.</p>
<p>&#8230; and BTW &#8211; That beautiful post you wrote about your wife ~did~ make me tear up. =)</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>NAPP_Newss last blog post..<a href="http://twitter.com/NAPP_News/statuses/1121504831" rel="nofollow">NAPP_News: @sonatacreative Aww! Well, Thank you for tweeting about the awesomeness that is Photoshop World! Funny that it&#8217;s still a secret to most, eh?</a> on [site]</em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: A.J. Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J. Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG. I got a Nancy comment. Cool beans.

I wasn&#039;t saying Janine&#039;s statement was without merit. Really my point is that as frustrating as those &quot;artists&quot; and customers can be, they will always be around. You can&#039;t define yourself simply by outside influences.

I know plenty of untalented SOBs that are doing really well, and it is teeth-grinding to think, &quot;Why isn&#039;t that me?&quot; The fact is you can&#039;t control other people. You can only take what you see, what you learn, and try to be the best that YOU can be.

Everything else will fall into place once you get your energy focused on the right task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG. I got a Nancy comment. Cool beans.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t saying Janine&#8217;s statement was without merit. Really my point is that as frustrating as those &#8220;artists&#8221; and customers can be, they will always be around. You can&#8217;t define yourself simply by outside influences.</p>
<p>I know plenty of untalented SOBs that are doing really well, and it is teeth-grinding to think, &#8220;Why isn&#8217;t that me?&#8221; The fact is you can&#8217;t control other people. You can only take what you see, what you learn, and try to be the best that YOU can be.</p>
<p>Everything else will fall into place once you get your energy focused on the right task.</p>
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